Friday, May 02, 2008

Right-to-Work States: 7, Forced-Union States 0

What are the main economic differences between right-to-work states and forced-union states (see map above)?

Not much really, except that compared to forced-union states, right-to-work states have had faster economic growth, lower unemployment rates, greater employment growth, higher state real GDP growth, greater growth in personal income, higher population growth, and greater home price appreciation. That's all.

James Hohman at the Mackinac Center has the data.

13 Comments:

At 5/02/2008 10:12 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do the right to work states owe their increase in populations, personal income increases, etc. to the retired union workers moving to a more pleasant climate or cheaper housing?

 
At 5/02/2008 10:31 AM, Blogger spencer said...

It also looks like the right to work states almost across the board have lower average real incomes while the other states experience significantly higher then average real incomes.

So my question is are they experiencing stronger growth mainly because they are poorer?

For example Massachusetts real per capita gdp is 126% that of Texas and its real per capita gdp growth rate has been significantly higher over the past decade.

Why do libertarians always seem to think being other people being poor poor is such a great thing?.

 
At 5/02/2008 11:04 AM, Blogger LowTax said...

I used to work for Boeing in the Seattle area a few years ago. Even though I was a professional white collar engineer who was given his first job by the Boeing Co. and was well paid, I was forced to join a union of professional workers so I could whine and stomp my feet next to a burn barrel when the union didn't get its way.

I haven't worked there in years and plan to never go back. I do not like being forced to do anything, especially to use extortion on an employer I considered respectable and who I was greatful to.

 
At 5/02/2008 11:05 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Taxes in NC are 2X what they were in PA. So yeah I got a job in NC that pays near the same as PA, but I take home FAR less due to the boot on neck withholding of the State of NC.

Combined with the hideous schools and higher overall costs of living, what a workers paradise, this 'right to work' state is.

Professor get a clue.

 
At 5/02/2008 11:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyonymous #2,

Telling the professor to get a clue? He simply stated the facts about right to work vs. forced-union states. I'm sure he could weigh in on other tax and regulatory issues in the right-to-work states as well, but that wasn't part of his post. Perhaps you should get the 'clue'. If you hate NC so much, leave.

 
At 5/02/2008 11:58 AM, Blogger Nathan Benefield said...

State and local taxes per-capita are $3,256 in NC which is less than, not "2X," what they are in PA ($4,057), according to the Tax Foundation Data

Also check out the ALEC-Laffer study that finds the two biggest factors in state economic growth is the income tax rate and right-to-work laws.

 
At 5/02/2008 1:54 PM, Blogger Scavinger said...

As a resident of NC, I have found that the cost of living "down south" is generall a lot less than "up north". So even if the real incomes of the right-to-work states are less, the standard of living is about the same. Or better if you like trees instead of concrete.

 
At 5/02/2008 3:18 PM, Anonymous Machiavelli999 said...

I propose that I can destroy all of the innovation on the internet. All I have to do is to create a web designer's union.

 
At 5/02/2008 5:18 PM, Anonymous Mitch said...

The most striking thing about Hohman's charts is how they show the depth of Michigan's one-state depression. Economically, Michigan is in a league of its own, and it's a league no one else wants to join. Is that the fault of the unions? Or of an over-dependence on a single, poorly led industry?

 
At 5/02/2008 8:28 PM, Blogger juandos said...

Why does spencer think people should be paid more than they are worth?

"Taxes in NC are 2X what they were in PA. So yeah I got a job in NC that pays near the same as PA, but I take home FAR less due to the boot on neck withholding of the State of NC"....

Well anon @ 11:05 AM why whine about NC when you can always pack your bags and leave?

 
At 5/03/2008 3:19 PM, OpenID sethstorm said...

re:lowtax

I haven't worked there in years and plan to never go back. I do not like being forced to do anything, especially to use extortion on an employer I considered respectable and who I was greatful to.

You're leaving out the other part of the picture. It would look bad for them to do so.

The anti-union side has coercion that is equal to if not worse in comparison. For example, there are various firms that specialize in doing damage to the unions. Consultants such as The Burke Group who finely tune a message to intimidate if they are given the time. Next, come those like Vance International, who come looking for a fight. Third, worker-hostile environments created in the legal arena make it hostile to unions and partial to companies. Even without card-check, you have the company looking over your shoulder. A stacked deck either way, and giving the company too many advantages.

 
At 2/19/2009 8:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

HAHA! You think NC taxes are bad? Ive been to NC...its a ******* DREAM compared to NY! So why dont YOU get a clue? Unions are pure evil! You caoud have 3 kids, and bills piling up, but if they go on strike, YOURE UNEMPLOYED!!! They dont help you! But you better be sure to pay them every week while you are unemployed! Not to mention that they force you to pay them extra to back whatever candidate THEY chose, whether or not you want that candidate. If you dont pay, you are in bad standing with the union and kicked out! Now, does that sound like an orginization to work for? Or just another money grubbing group of democrat cronies driving up the cost of production, and keeping buisness from turning a profit so they can create job growth?

 
At 9/22/2011 5:29 PM, Blogger bob said...

i am having a hard time getting an answer to a question. i have been offered a job in another state, oregon/ forced union state. if i accept the job do i have to join the union? i have seen in my lifetime the damage a union can do to a business. can i accept the job without joining the union. altho it pays a little more than the average, i will not take the job if i have to pay union dues. after paying dues the job will actually pay the same. someone union let me know. thanks bob

 

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