Monday, December 26, 2011

Gingrich Odds Fall from 38% to 8.2% in 2 Weeks

Gingrich odds on Intrade are down to 8.2%, the lowest since the first week of November, almost two months ago (see chart above). 

40 Comments:

At 12/26/2011 11:22 AM, Blogger Benjamin said...

Another one bites the dust!

Down they tumble like bozo tenpins. Trump, Cain, Gingrich, Bachmann, Palin, Perry and more who were frontrunners so briefly no one remembers their names.

Gingrich got huge roars from GOP crowds when he advocated tossing judges into prison if they make the wrong decisions, second only to those issued whenever a GOP'er exults over executions.

What next for the GOP? Tarring and feathering police chiefs and sheriffs?

I have to give Gingrich credit: He went beyond even most libertarian or anarchist proclamations, into terra incognito, a form of society that might be termed "destructive anarchy," or perhaps nihilism.

The GOP field becomes more feeble with each passing week, populated by ninnies, half-wits and rabble-rousers.

Can the GOP unseat Obama? The night is very young yet, but it already looks like twilight and gathering gloom for the Grifters On Parade (GOP).

 
At 12/26/2011 11:32 AM, Blogger juandos said...

"The GOP field becomes more feeble with each passing week..."...

When it reaches the feebleness of those that supported Obama then its time to start worrying pseudo benny...

 
At 12/26/2011 12:29 PM, Blogger Larry G said...

re: " feebleness of those that supported Obama"

ha ha ha.. If Obama is so bad ..how come these clowns are crashing and burning all over the place?

time for a reality check!


BZZZZTTT - The GOP is a clown show.

they make Obama look like an unbeatable Prez!

;-)

 
At 12/26/2011 1:38 PM, Blogger Paul said...

"ha ha ha.. If Obama is so bad ..how come these clowns are crashing and burning all over the place?"

Larry, thanks for a perfect example of a non-sequitur.

 
At 12/26/2011 1:44 PM, Blogger Paul said...

The GOP field becomes more feeble with each passing week, populated by ninnies, half-wits and rabble-rousers.


Only a half-wit, ninny, rabble-rouser would be shameless enough to weigh in with political opinions after having votd for Obama.

 
At 12/26/2011 1:59 PM, Blogger Larry G said...

it's not like the GOP does not have substantial...qualified contenders... it's that the right wing nuts have kidnapped the party and these guys are the ones they like.

Fess up Paul... when you got a guy like Gingrich high in the contenders... the GOP has serious issues.

and heckfire.. I thought the GOP really wanted to beat Obama... but now I'm thinking it's a right wing conspiracy to make Obama go another term before they "pounce".

;-)

 
At 12/26/2011 2:10 PM, Blogger juandos said...

" If Obama is so bad ..how come these clowns are crashing and burning all over the place?"...

There's a term out there larry g, its called 'conservatism', have you heard of it?

Just where do you get your news from?

 
At 12/26/2011 2:13 PM, Blogger juandos said...

"when you got a guy like Gingrich high in the contenders... the GOP has serious issues"...

Why? At least Gingrich has some sort of verifiable track record which can't be said about the Kenyan Kommie Klown...

 
At 12/26/2011 2:18 PM, Blogger Larry G said...

" There's a term out there larry g, its called 'conservatism', have you heard of it?

Just where do you get your news from?"

you say tomato I say tomatoo

you say conservatism, I say clown-show...

hey - there are PLENTY of credible GOP candidates but those conservatives have picked a circus tent full of clowns...

this is the most political fun since Spiro Agnew!

;-)

 
At 12/26/2011 2:20 PM, Blogger Che is dead said...

"Romney bought and sold or invested in Experian credit reporting agency, Domino’s Pizza, Staples Superstore, AMC Entertainment, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, DoubleClick, Guitar Center, Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), Sealy, The Sports Authority, Toys R Us, Unisource, Warner Music Group, The Weather Channel and more than more than a hundred others. He started with $37 million. Romney left Bain in 1998. Today Bain Capital controls $65 billion in assets. If you had invested $1000 in Bain Capital at the beginning of Romney’s fourteen-year run, that would have been worth more than $39 million by the time he was through." -- Bellevue Business Journal

During this same period, Obama was smoking pot, reading Saul Alinsky, burying his college transcripts and chanting "G-d damn Amerikkka" at reverend Wrights "church". Or, was he writing his third autobiography? It's so hard to keep his earth shattering accomplishments straight.

 
At 12/26/2011 2:49 PM, Blogger juandos said...

"you say conservatism, I say clown-show"...

Well larry g I know you won't understand this but the costly clown show is in the White House now...

 
At 12/26/2011 3:07 PM, OpenID Sprewell said...

Hmm, the last polls had Paul in the lead in Iowa and Romney in the lead in New Hampshire, with Huntsman a strong fourth. I'd be fine with any of the three and I wouldn't rule out Bachmann as a spoiler in Iowa. Though all three have their flaws, they'd all present a strong case against Obama.

 
At 12/26/2011 4:00 PM, Blogger Paul said...

Larry,

"..it's not like the GOP does not have substantial...qualified contenders... "

Don't know who you mean, but my favorite potential candidates chose not to run.

"..it's that the right wing nuts have kidnapped the party and these guys are the ones they like."

You have no idea what you are talking about. Zero. Every one of the front-runners has serious flaws, hence the constant reshuffling of front-runners. In other words, nobody really "likes" the current contenders. That said, any one of them, except Ron Paul, would be an enormous improvement over the moron you helped saddle the country with.

 
At 12/26/2011 4:02 PM, Blogger Paul said...

"..it's that the right wing nuts have kidnapped the party and these guys are the ones they like."

My 2nd take: Really? Mitt Romney?? Could you possibly be more clueless about current right-wing political think?

 
At 12/26/2011 9:10 PM, Blogger Larry G said...

"Could you possibly be more clueless about current right-wing political think? "

you have to ask yourself why no reasonable Republicans chose to run and left you with this clown show.

the right wing cannot stand even center-right guys... like Romney or Huntsman... they gotta have clowns like Cain, Perry, Bachman and Gingrich....

Looks like another 4 years for Barak, eh?

;-)

 
At 12/27/2011 12:26 AM, Blogger Hydra said...

We have not heard from Jeb, yet.

 
At 12/27/2011 12:56 AM, Blogger juandos said...

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At 12/27/2011 12:57 AM, Blogger juandos said...

"Fess up Paul... when you got a guy like Gingrich high in the contenders... the GOP has serious issues"...

Gingrich has, serious flaws but I'm guessing you can't name one of them larry g...

 
At 12/27/2011 6:11 AM, Blogger Larry G said...

"Gingrich has, serious flaws but I'm guessing you can't name one of them larry g."

oh I can in spades... but it's not what I think... that affects Intrade is it?

As a leader we know how Gingrich operates and it's not a pretty sight.

but it's not even really about Gingrich.

It's about who is NOT among the contenders at the same time you have folks like Caine and Perry zoom to the top of the polls for the right only for the rest of the country to see how lousy they are so then the right latches on to the next loser... in this case Gingrich.

The right does not want to win near as much as they want their candidate to be hard right.

but hard right is not going to win the election and so it cannot reconcile it's own feelings about whether to win or whether to support right wing whackos even if they lose.

for you anti-govt types - I would think that anyone who took a million plus dollars from Fannie/Freddie would find that horrible....

Newt would be a bad version of Nixon as President.

 
At 12/27/2011 12:39 PM, Blogger Benjamin said...

This week's lover boy for the GOP is Ron Paul.

He says he does not believe in evolution in a CBS transcript this week.

The GOP has made belief in creationism an acid test, along with anti-immigration, anti-abortion.

And while worshipping God is necessary, so is genuflecting to gold.

Obama is a mediocre President.---but so far, he towers above this GOP field.

I may vote for Romney, if I knew what he stood for.

Of course, Obama stands for endless war and more welfare, so the choices are weak indeed.

 
At 12/27/2011 12:57 PM, Blogger juandos said...

"As a leader we know how Gingrich operates and it's not a pretty sight"...

Says who larry g? Those who competed with him for the slots he he won?

"The right does not want to win near as much as they want their candidate to be hard right"...

Said like a true liberal who fears conservatism....

"Newt would be a bad version of Nixon as Presiden"...

Which is still a lot better than this bad version of Carter in the White House now...

 
At 12/27/2011 1:43 PM, Blogger Larry G said...

at least Carter knew how to get on the ballot in Virginia...

;-)

Newt, like many who like him are good at theory and lousy at realities.

and geeze.. how could Juandos love the guy who sucked on the fannie teat?

unbelievable!

 
At 12/27/2011 2:25 PM, Blogger Paul said...

Benji,

"This week's lover boy for the GOP is Ron Paul."

And just like that, Benji pretends he hasn't long been touting the crackpot Ron Paul around here.

 
At 12/27/2011 2:32 PM, Blogger Paul said...

Larry,

"As a leader we know how Gingrich operates and it's not a pretty sight."


Funny, I remember a balanced budget he dragged Bill Clinton into kicking and screaming, right up until Clinton took credit for it all. It was a much prettier sight than the trillion plus deficits the
socialist douchebag you voted for keeps racking up.

"...they gotta have clowns like Cain, Perry, Bachman and Gingrich...."

And again, any one of them would be a gigantic improvement over Obama. Perry's record in Texas is spectacular, especially when held up against The Messiah Who Thinks Unemployment Checks Create Jobs. Perry's big downfall is he is not good in debates. This hurts him substantially in the superficial tv age where a know-nothing like Obama gets elected because he is "cool."

 
At 12/27/2011 2:53 PM, Blogger Larry G said...

re: Gingrich's "balanced budget"...

ha ha ha.. is that the same one that you claim in other posts is an accounting "tricks" sham?

which is it?

So..if Clinton left a balanced budget..it's bogus...

but if Gingrich was responsible.. it was because Clinton was 'dragged" into it.

:-) come on Paul... how about some clarity here?

and Hey Obama is not my Messiah... he's mediocre... and I would have voted for Romney if the Republican party had been intelligent enough not to nominate a NeoCon with a bimbo as VP....

the deal here is that as bad as Obama is to folks like you ...that the competition has proven itself to be a bunch of right wing wackos who could never gain the support of anything but the right wing in a national election.

these guys are clowns because once again, the GOP allowed the right wing wackos to hijack the process and ban moderates like Jeb Bush...and similar...

No moderate Republican knows he can get past the primaries which are infested with red meat wackos...

Obama wins by default...because the GOP only knows how to shoot itself first.

 
At 12/27/2011 2:57 PM, Blogger Benjamin said...

Larry G-

There is no more GOP establishment. They have been obliterated by the whack-jobs. Many stalwarts have been tossed over in the last few years.

Romney is the only hope for this collection of kooks who make the the current-day GOP primary voters.

I suspect Romney is sane, and so offers one real hope for the USA. Whether he can survive the GOP nut-job gauntlet is another matter.

 
At 12/27/2011 3:42 PM, Blogger Paul said...

Larry,

"ha ha ha.. is that the same one that you claim in other posts is an accounting "tricks" sham?

which is it?"

Wrong guy, Larry. I've read the case for the "sham" of the 90's balanced budgets. Perhaps it's true, but undoubtedly the budget was closer to balance then than it has been since. The dot com, Y2k bubbles had a tremendous amount to do with it, but the "extremist" GOP led by Gingrich, as Clinton repeatedly labelled them, also kept his big spending Liberal impulses in check. The 1995 budget showdown proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

"..and I would have voted for Romney if the Republican party had been intelligent enough not to nominate a NeoCon with a bimbo as VP...."

Empty labels. The term "neocon" is an epithet thrown around usually by people who have no idea what they're talking about. Either that, or anti-semites. It's a made-up term with no fixed definition. Romney could just as easily be called a neocon. As for Palin, again, her brief record in Alaska shines compared to Obama.
Compare her to Obama's half-wit sidekick, and she looks like a Mensa candidate.

".the GOP allowed the right wing wackos to hijack the process and ban moderates like Jeb Bush...and similar..."

Really? Can you show me where Jeb Bush was banned from anything? I imagine the evidence resides in the same place where you learned about Obama's balanced budget proposals.

 
At 12/27/2011 3:45 PM, Blogger Paul said...

Benji,

"Whether he can survive the GOP nut-job gauntlet is another matter."

You banged the drum for Ron Paul, and now you somehow pretend like it never happened. You're the last person to be calling somebody else a nut job.

 
At 12/27/2011 3:54 PM, Blogger Larry G said...

If the Republicans led by Gingrich "forced" Clinton to balance the budget what happened to them under Bush and why all the "excuses"?

do you or do you not believe that no matter what we do in regard to foreign policy that we have to pay for it? Isn't it totally irresponsible to not balance the budget and blame it on the dot.com "bubble" while riding Obama for his housing "bubble"?

where is your balance here?

re: neocon..

yep.. if we had McCain right now..we'd not only be in THREE Wars but we'd have the same old Republican apologists saying that because the wars are not our fault that we have "no choice" but to not pay for them.

It used to be that Republicans made sense... no more...

they've been shanghaied by extremist apologists... "it's not our fault and we want far ring wackos even if it runs off the Jeb Bush's.

Face it Paul. Your party is a bunch of whackos who refuse to take responsibility for the spending they did under Bush that started the country on this down spiral.

and we want them back in charge, why?

so they can cut entitlements and spend even more that we cannot afford on new wars in the Middle East?

and this is good for us why?

 
At 12/27/2011 4:45 PM, Blogger Paul said...

Larry,

"If the Republicans led by Gingrich "forced" Clinton to balance the budget what happened to them under Bush and why all the "excuses"?"

Easy. A)The bubble burst around March of 2000 during Bill Clinton's final yr in office. The damage didn't really set in until Bush took over.

B)The GOP lost their way in the 2000's. The first blow was when Clinton won the 1995 budget showdown propaganda war. The "extremist" GOP(or as you would call them, "whackos") stopped talking about eliminating whole government agencies and rolling back government in other areas. Clinton beat them the way he beat Juannita Broderick.

C) What excuses? Bush pissed away too much money on failed liberal programs. But he was better than Obama by a wide margin. Yet, somehow Obama get the "mediocre" grade.

"do you or do you not believe that no matter what we do in regard to foreign policy that we have to pay for it?"

Yeah. Remind me how Obama is paying for it now.

"Isn't it totally irresponsible to not balance the budget and blame it on the dot.com "bubble" while riding Obama for his housing "bubble"?"

Huh? In hindsight, the Bush deficits look like the golden years of fiscal responsibility compared to what we have now. I'd be perfectly fine with Obama's bitchy finger pointing at Bush for the past 3 years if he wasn't furiously making things worse at every opportunity. You can flesh out his ignorant economic instincts by his repeated statements that unemployment checks create jobs, but the internet is a net destroyer. His spendathon, attacks on private enterprise, and staggering debt is the end result of that moronic belief.

"..if we had McCain right now..we'd not only be in THREE Wars but we'd have the same old Republican apologists saying that because the wars are not our fault that we have "no choice" but to not pay for them."

As opposed to right now where we aren't paying for them. The latest thing we aren't paying for is Social Security. More of that "mediocre" Obama.

"it's not our fault and we want far ring wackos even if it runs off the Jeb Bush's."

Again, where is your evidence Jeb Bush was banned from anything? You just make this shit up as you go, don't you Larry? And what makes Rick Perry, for example, a whacko? He's been Governor of the 2nd largest state for 10 years and Texas is thriving compared to most of the rest of the country. On every metric, he outshines Obama.

"and we want them back in charge, why?"

Because they aren't Obama. The two-legged wrecking ball you voted for is orders of magnitudes worse than anything the GOP has served up.

"..Your party is a bunch of whackos who refuse to take responsibility for the spending they did under Bush that started the country on this down spiral."

I love this. Obama is the king of the debt mongering finger-pointers, yet you always hold him to zero account while demanding
accountability from the group that has tried(however fecklessly) to hold his massive, unprecedented debt expansion in check. Give me the glory years of 2-300 billion dollar deficits any day. I can put out a kitchen fire, a raging inferno is an entirely different situation.

 
At 12/27/2011 5:04 PM, Blogger Larry G said...

" Bush pissed away too much money on failed liberal programs"

ha ha ha

Bush merely signed what Congress sent him.

and they sent him "we can't help but spend trillions more than we take in in taxes because the terrorists picked on us" budget that Bush signed without a whimper because they were billed as the Bush Tax Cut budget....

if these guys were still around.. we'd be in a depression and 20 trillion in debt...and fighting 4 or 5 wars that were "not our fault so we don't have to pay for them".

Bush was simply the Howdy Doody bobble head to the Republican Congress.

these guys take a 5 trillion deficit ...double it.. refuse to rein in Fannie/Freddie... blame it on a minority congressman then thrown the whole flaming mess to Obama and say he is no good because he can't fix what they broke in one term.

and guys like you would vote them right back into office to go right back to what they were doing originally... spending like drunken sailors and blaming it on terrorists...

The reason the Jeb Bush's won't run is because the whole Republican Party has turned into a Newt Bobblehead....and Jeb is not their kind of guy...

the far right wacko agenda is:

20% for Perry, 20% for Cain, 20% for Paul, etc, etc,... there is no rational agenda.. it's idiots right wing wackos run amok.

you might think any of these guys could do better than Obama but at least 50% of all voters - including Republicans (like Jeb Bush) do not agree.

why would you support these wackos when normal Republicans don't want to be in the same room with them?

Donald Trump and Newt? Really?


;-)

 
At 12/27/2011 5:58 PM, Blogger Paul said...

"Bush merely signed what Congress sent him."

You're apparently unaware of how the budget process works, or any real history of the Bush presidency. I suggest some remedial education in civics.

"and they sent him "we can't help but spend trillions more than we take in in taxes because the terrorists picked on us" budget"

Nice way to characterize 9/11. You're all class, Larry.

"these guys take a 5 trillion deficit ...double it.."

In 8 yrs. Obama "the mediocre" is doing that in less than one term as you prepare to pull the lever for him again.

". refuse to rein in Fannie/Freddie..."

Unbelievable. Find me one of Obama's cronies who will admit TODAY that Fannie and Freddie were major culprits in the meltdown. It's simply staggering you would heap the blame on the Bush for not doing enough to dismantle the bomb the Democrats assembled, ignited, and protected during the critical yrs of the housing bubble. Obama surrounded himself with former board members, and took more GSE money than all the GOP Presidential candidates combined.

"blame it on a minority congressman"

WTF? Was that just the usual liberal charge of racism in lieu of an argument? Must be.

".. then thrown the whole flaming mess to Obama.."

Obama volunteered for the job.

"..and say he is no good because he can't fix what they broke in one term."

He's no good because he made the problem far worse. By now he ought to at least have some benchmarks that show progress. Instead, we are bouncing along the bottom with nothing to show for it but over $4 trillion in debt.

"The reason the Jeb Bush's won't run is because the whole Republican Party has turned into a Newt Bobblehead....and Jeb is not their kind of guy..."

Once again, where is your evidence? Are you privvy to Jeb's inner-circle like you are Obama's top secret balanced budget plan?

"..you might think any of these guys could do better than Obama but at least 50% of all voters - including Republicans (like Jeb Bush) do not agree."

50%! Well, that's certainly a fringe then. It's like, half!

I have an idea. Let's have an election where only productive Americans get to vote and then see where it comes out. Let's see how Obama does without his parasite constituency.


Still no answer from Larry why Rick Perry is a "whacko." By any yardstick you care to measure, he outshines the socialist community organizer you suicide voted into office.

 
At 12/27/2011 6:15 PM, Blogger Larry G said...

"Bush merely signed what Congress sent him."

You're apparently unaware of how the budget process works, or any real history of the Bush presidency. I suggest some remedial education in civics.

Oh Contraire!

the President recommends but Congress legislates....


"and they sent him "we can't help but spend trillions more than we take in in taxes because the terrorists picked on us" budget"

Nice way to characterize 9/11. You're all class, Larry.

it's painfully true. It's one excuse after another... dot.com, terrorists, bad this..new wars..bad that...

that's the GOP for you now days.. all excuses for irresponsible fiscal behavior...



"these guys take a 5 trillion deficit ...double it.."

In 8 yrs. Obama "the mediocre" is doing that in less than one term as you prepare to pull the lever for him again.

not the structural deficit...

he got a 1.5 trillion structural deficit from the get go and an economic meltdown /near Depression.. courtesy of the GOP.. spending and being asleep at the switch when Fannie/Freddie were running amok.

". refuse to rein in Fannie/Freddie..."

Unbelievable. Find me one of Obama's cronies who will admit TODAY that Fannie and Freddie were major culprits in the meltdown.

oh they do.. and they say the Republicans were in charge and did nothing about it and later claimed that one minority Congressmen stopped them.

"It's simply staggering you would heap the blame on the Bush for not doing enough to dismantle the bomb the Democrats assembled, ignited, and protected during the critical yrs of the housing bubble."

did it not occur in the 2000-2006 yrs?

"Obama surrounded himself with former board members, and took more GSE money than all the GOP Presidential candidates combined."

more than the 1.6 million that Gingrich did? besides all of this happened BEFORE Obama - right?

"blame it on a minority congressman"

WTF? Was that just the usual liberal charge of racism in lieu of an argument? Must be.

they do... they blamed it on Barney Frank.. when he had no role...as a minority Congressman...

".. then thrown the whole flaming mess to Obama.."

Obama volunteered for the job.

he did but he did not realize how badly the Republicans had wrecked the economy with their tax cuts, out of control spending and asleep at the switch while fannie ran amok.... ALL on the Republicans watch.

"..and say he is no good because he can't fix what they broke in one term."

He's no good because he made the problem far worse. By now he ought to at least have some benchmarks that show progress. Instead, we are bouncing along the bottom with nothing to show for it but over $4 trillion in debt.

he did what Bush recommended on the TARP and he did stimulus which many mainstream economists support...

there is disagreement but he did about the only thing that was an option given those circumstances...

the only option the Republicans support is a policy that would drive us into a Depression... this is the same guys that put us where we are right now.

 
At 12/27/2011 6:15 PM, Blogger Larry G said...

.....continue



"The reason the Jeb Bush's won't run is because the whole Republican Party has turned into a Newt Bobblehead....and Jeb is not their kind of guy..."

Once again, where is your evidence? Are you privvy to Jeb's inner-circle like you are Obama's top secret balanced budget plan?

it's not just Jeb Bush.. it's a half dozen or more moderate Republicans who will not run... that many of us might well vote for.


"..you might think any of these guys could do better than Obama but at least 50% of all voters - including Republicans (like Jeb Bush) do not agree."

50%! Well, that's certainly a fringe then. It's like, half!

it's what Bush had when he won a second term .... eh?


I have an idea. Let's have an election where only productive Americans get to vote and then see where it comes out. Let's see how Obama does without his parasite constituency.

you lose! we've got Buffet, and Bill Gates and a whole slew of "productive" people including Hispanics that you guys do your best to squash...


Still no answer from Larry why Rick Perry is a "whacko." By any yardstick you care to measure, he outshines the socialist community organizer you suicide voted into office.

you got to be kidding. have you been listening to him? he's way, way out of this league... I'm actually shocked that Texas has this kind of "talent" running the state.

but hey.. it's not just me... look at his poll numbers even among Conservatives... the only thing that saved him from total oblivion was when that special token minority Cain proved to be worse than anyone thought!

admit it Paul.. these guys are clowns who do not have a prayer against Obama.

I thought you guys actually wanted to WIN.... pick some people who can really beat Obama.. guy.. and I might even vote for them too...

they say ..the first think you have to do when in a bad spot.. is recognize that you are.. I'm rooting for you...

;-)

 
At 12/27/2011 6:39 PM, Blogger Paul said...

"it's not just Jeb Bush.. it's a half dozen or more moderate Republicans who will not run... that many of us might well vote for."

Evading the question. You apparently have some secret information about why Jeb Bush didn't run. I suspect it has everything to do with his last name, but you claim you know the real scoop. Who is your Deepthroat inside the Bush compound, Larry?

"you lose! we've got Buffet, and Bill Gates and a whole slew of "productive" people including Hispanics that you guys do your best to squash..."

You've got the entire welfare dependency. I had no idea you owned hispanics. I'll go ask my wife, last I checked she votes straight ticket GOP. Oh, maybe you meant illegal immigrants? Yeah, you get them, all of them vote for Democrats with the help of groups like ACORN.

"you got to be kidding. have you been listening to him? he's way, way out of this league... I'm actually shocked that Texas has this kind of "talent" running the state."

Ah, so there's that famous Larry standard of "evidence." No real facts, just empty blather. You obviously value most the shallow attributes of politicians, helps explain why you voted for Obama. Since 2000 when Perry became Governor, 45% of America's jobs were created in Texas. During Perry's tenure, Texas' bond rating went up. There are fewer government employees per capita than when he took office. Perry has consistently scored a solid “B” rating from the Cato Institute on spending.

How does that compare to Obama? No doubt you will either ignore the question, call Perry a name, or reply with one of your usual non-sequiturs.

"but hey.. it's not just me... look at his poll numbers even among Conservatives... "

I actually decided not to vote for him too because of his debate performances. I realized there are too many people like you out there who don't do their homework, who respond to empty bullshit like, say, "hopeandchange." We need someone who performs well in debates so the ignoramuses will line up for our side. I'd prefer they just stay home, but reality is reality. That doesn't make Perry a whacko, it just means he's not good off-the-cuff. It means we will be denied the candidate with the best record among the bunch, especially including Obama.


".the only thing that saved him from total oblivion was when that special token minority Cain proved to be worse than anyone though"

More Larry race-baiting. I guess you have to play whatever cards you have up your sleeve. Pathetic, but not surprising.

 
At 12/27/2011 6:56 PM, Blogger Larry G said...

" I actually decided not to vote for him too because of his debate performances. I realized there are too many people like you out there who don't do their homework,"

Paul..this totally reveals the problem.

when you say it's people like me ..the reason why you did not vote for Perry... you're admitting that he looks good on paper but all those things you credit him with - don't match what comes out of the dudes mouth. It's clear he's a figurehead ...not anyone of real substance... and I say THAT's the REAL reason you won't support him.

As far as Cain is concerned.. I think the Koch brothers knew what an idiot he was and run him on purpose anyhow to cynically show just how wrong affirmative action can be...

I think he set back minorities 50 years... because he reinforced a powerful stereotype....

what do you think?

;-)

is it scandalous to say this?

you gotta admit....that guy had no business running for President... he really did show just how bad the current crop of wannabes are.

can you imagine Cain running against Obama?

seriously?

Newt is going to kiss Donald TRumps behind?

and Santorum tags along...

Trump is threatening to run if the wrong Republican does?

this is like a never-ending loony tunes cartoon show...

 
At 12/27/2011 8:07 PM, Blogger Paul said...

Larry,

Did you run out of race cards to play?

"..when you say it's people like me ..the reason why you did not vote for Perry... you're admitting that he looks good on paper but all those things you credit him with - don't match what comes out of the dudes mouth."

No, I'm saying people like you are too ignorant to look past a candidate's inadequacies in the shallow aspects of running for president. Perry's outstanding record as Governonr means nothing to you because he's not good off-the-cuff. Neither is Obama, really, but he knows how to bloviate on in that scolding professor tone of his.

"It's clear he's a figurehead ...not anyone of real substance... and I say THAT's the REAL reason you won't support him."

He is the Governor of Texas. He lobbied for, and signed into law, many of the laws that helped sustain Texas as an engine of economic growth. Again, I don't expect someone like you to appreciate this. You're one of those who fell under the spell of Hopeandchange.

"can you imagine Cain running against Obama?"

Let's see...

Cain: Came from nothing. Earned a master's degree in Computer Science. Went on to become a fabulously successful businessman. Previous chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserver. Made some dumb statements, not well-schooled in foreign policy.

Obama: Pampered princeling his entire life. Schooled by Marxists throughout his life. Socialist community organizer. Sat in Reverend Wright's church for 20 years. Best pals with domestic terrorists. Thinks unemployment checks create jobs. Says stupid things all the time, but is protected by a ball-licking media. Chose a half-wit for his VP. Epic disaster as President.

Yeah, I could see Cain running against Obama.

 
At 12/27/2011 8:20 PM, Blogger Larry G said...

Did you run out of race cards to play?

I was bad....

No, I'm saying people like you are too ignorant to look past a candidate's inadequacies in the shallow aspects of running for president. Perry's outstanding record as Governonr means nothing to you because he's not good off-the-cuff. Neither is Obama, really, but he knows how to bloviate on in that scolding professor tone of his.

my understanding is that the Gov of Texas is a weak position and that most of what gets into law is decided by the legislature.

I do think Perry has gotten a bit of a bad rap but at the same time, it's clear to me that he lacks the leadership that this country requires and I'd vote for Obama over him any day.

You're one of those who fell under the spell of Hopeandchange.

nope.. never believed it.. it was all hype....from the get go...

but I knew McCain would be a disaster and may well die in office with Pallin in control and that was just too scary...

"can you imagine Cain running against Obama?"

Let's see...

Cain: Came from nothing. Earned a master's degree in Computer Science. Went on to become a fabulously successful businessman. Previous chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserver. Made some dumb statements, not well-schooled in foreign policy.

he made a LOT of dumb statements about a LOT of things BESIDES foreign policy.

based on what he said.. I cannot imagine him as a real CEO ...

he kept saying that he'd rely on his "advisers".. that's not a good sign for me.

Obama: Pampered princeling his entire life. Schooled by Marxists throughout his life. Socialist community organizer. Sat in Reverend Wright's church for 20 years. Best pals with domestic terrorists. Thinks unemployment checks create jobs. Says stupid things all the time, but is protected by a ball-licking media. Chose a half-wit for his VP. Epic disaster as President.

yup - you've cited all of the FAUX NEWS talking points. congrats.

Obama is more a man than any or all of his challengers - combined.

IMHO of course.

Yeah, I could see Cain running against Obama.

I could see a Massacre.

Cain is an idiot.. by just about any measure... having him trying to track down Obama or figure out what to do in Libya or Iran scares the bejesus out of me.

he had no clue how many things work domestically either... IMHO.

the Republican debates have clearly shown who these guys are - and are not - and it's not a pretty picture.

but then folks like Bush or Strickland or Christie would be treated like Huntsman.. right?

so basically we got who the Republican right wanted.. I see no other contenders that would be acceptable to the right..

agree?

 
At 12/27/2011 8:45 PM, Blogger juandos said...

"at least Carter knew how to get on the ballot in Virginia"...

Oh yeah! Times don't change, nothing about Virginia is dynamic right, larry g?...

Do some homework...

"and geeze.. how could Juandos love the guy who sucked on the fannie teat?"...

Making it up as you go along but that's not unusual...

Point any comment where I'm endorsing Gingrich...

BTW I'd vote Gingrich in a heart beat over Obama...

Heck! I'd vote for a head of lettuce before I'd vote for Obama...

Lettuce at least has some admirable qualities...

 
At 12/27/2011 8:50 PM, Blogger Larry G said...

anyone who can't get himself on a ballot... I mean..heckfire...

EVEN JIMMY CARTER got on the ballot

and the heck of it is... Gingrich LIVES in Va.

what can you say about a guy who has been in politics forever that cannot get on the ballot in the state he lives in?

not ready to lead... that's what

he's better off charging bling at Tiffany's for a women that used to be his mistress at about the time he was "busy" with "other" things.

at least we know homeandchange does not have the morals of an alley cat while proclaiming from on high "family values", eh?

 

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