Friday, March 18, 2011

Lots of Snow in Minneapolis: 73 Inches

Minneapolis has had 73 inches of snow this winter, the second snowiest winter since 1891.

Exhibit A: Car buried in snow at Ron's Auto Repair at the corner of 38th Street and 37th Avenue South:


20 Comments:

At 3/19/2011 10:21 AM, Blogger Che is dead said...

Yes, it's been a brutal winter. But, as the left insists, it's all the fault of mankind, particularly those evil capitalists.

Funny how any scientist who refuses to surrender his integrity and jump on board the global warming gravy train is ignored, blacklisted or ridiculed. Whether it's MIT's Richard Lindzen or Professor Emeritus Hal Lewis, a portion of whose resignation letter to the American Physical Society I've extracted below, the left does everything in it's power to ruin reputations, manipulate the evidence and squash debate.

"How different it is now. The giants no longer walk the earth, and the money flood has become the raison d’être of much physics research, the vital sustenance of much more, and it provides the support for untold numbers of professional jobs. For reasons that will soon become clear my former pride at being an APS Fellow all these years has been turned into shame, and I am forced, with no pleasure at all, to offer you my resignation from the Society."

"It is of course, the global warming scam, with the (literally) trillions of dollars driving it, that has corrupted so many scientists, and has carried APS before it like a rogue wave. It is the greatest and most successful pseudoscientific fraud I have seen in my long life as a physicist. Anyone who has the faintest doubt that this is so should force himself to read the ClimateGate documents, which lay it bare. (Montford’s book organizes the facts very well.) I don’t believe that any real physicist, nay scientist, can read that stuff without revulsion. I would almost make that revulsion a definition of the word scientist."

Professor Emiritus Hal Lewis Resigns from American Physical Society, Telegraph.co.uk

 
At 3/19/2011 11:25 AM, Blogger Che is dead said...

I've noticed that my posts disappear from time to time, am I violating some policy? If so, please let me know and I will refrain form doing so.

 
At 3/19/2011 12:15 PM, Blogger Mark J. Perry said...

Che_is_dead: You're fine, it's just that some comments with links get treated as possible spam by Blogger's new spam filter. Unfortunately, I don't get automatically notified when comments get stuck in the Spam Filter, and I have to remember to check there manually every do or so. And it's also unfortunate that Blogger can't seem to distinguish between legitimate comments with a link, and spam comments with a link.

I'll do my best to check as frequently as possible, and "release" the legitimate comments that get mistaken put into the Spam area.

Thanks for everybody's understanding and patience about this!

 
At 3/19/2011 12:58 PM, Blogger Benjamin said...

Minnestoans: Nice and balmy here in Los Angeles. Come on down.

 
At 3/19/2011 1:04 PM, Blogger Benjamin said...

PS-

Re rising rising oceans. Oddly enough, both the right-wing nuts and the greenie-weenies are wrong on this one.

Early man arrived in North America about 10,000 years ago over a land bridge--as ocean levels were 60 meters lower than today. So, without artificial stimulation, the oceans rose 60 meters in 10,000 years. This is not controversial.

So, despite what either right- or left-wingers say, the oceans obviously could rise another two meters easily, for natural reasons. It is not impossible, as the right-wingers say, nor it is only man-induced, as left-wingers would have you believe.

For common sense reasons, we may have to anticipate ocean levels a couple meters higher in the future, or maybe lower.

 
At 3/19/2011 1:57 PM, Blogger Benjamin said...

Actually, ocean levels have risen 120 meters in last 14,000 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise

So a few meters in one direction or another is to be expected.

 
At 3/19/2011 4:21 PM, Blogger AIG said...

" It is not impossible, as the right-wingers say,"

Way to make up stuff.

73 inches? Pff! We've gotten well over 100 so far.

 
At 3/19/2011 4:32 PM, Blogger AIG said...

Benji, you're assuming sea level rise is linear. Of course its not.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped
ia/commons/1/1d/Post-
Glacial_Sea_Level.png

Saying it could rise "a few meters in the future" isn't saying much, since "future" isn't a unit of time. In the past 6,000 years it has risen by about 2m. It would take another 500m, at current rates, to get near 1 additional m.

Plain old scare tactics. Show enough flooded computer generated scenes of lower Manhattan to children in the 4th grade, and you'll get enough little Komsomolites.

 
At 3/19/2011 6:45 PM, Blogger Benjamin said...

AIG-

As you say, it is not linear. For purely natural reasons, we could get another couple meters in the next 200 years, or it could go down. Or maybe we get five meters up in the next 300 years.

What I am saying is that the left-wing is hooey in forecasting such rises purely due to manmade warming and on a schedule, and the right-wing is hooey for saying it can't happen.

It has happened, and in the recent past (geologically speaking). The last 5,000 years have been stable? Since when is 5,000 more than blip? And since when is that a gaurantee that we won't get more rises in the next 200 years, or even a reversal, and declines?

In fact, I think declines may happen. The globe is prone to Ice Ages, as anybody who has looked at our past knows. During Ice Ages, sea levels fall. Ice Ages have been more common than non-Ice Ages for the last several hundred thousand years. It may have something to do the with the rising height of the Himalayas. Or it may not. Sun output could matter too.

But if you think is impossible for ocean levels to change, you are deeply deluded and mistaken. Ocean levels have changed, and not by one or two meters, but but more than 120 meters, in just the last 14,000 years. Long before man lit much more than campfires.

That is not scare talk. It is just the record.

As for me, I would not buy a seafront building in, say, Venice, Italy (though I dearly love the people there).

 
At 3/19/2011 8:06 PM, Blogger AIG said...

"But if you think is impossible for ocean levels to change"

No one said that.

"and the right-wing is hooey for saying it can't happen"

No they don't.

 
At 3/20/2011 2:42 PM, Blogger Ron H. said...

"As for me, I would not buy a seafront building in, say, Venice, Italy (though I dearly love the people there)."

This isn't a good example to use if you wish to discuss sea level change. You're aware, aren't you, that Venice is sinking into the marsh it was built on, rather than being an example of rising sea level?

 
At 3/20/2011 4:21 PM, Blogger Benjamin said...

Ron H.

I was unaware of that, and salute you for bringing it to my attention. Still, when I see Venice during storms and high tides, it does not strike me as a long-term bet, unless we start to get a cooling period.

 
At 3/20/2011 6:07 PM, Blogger Buddy R Pacifico said...

Ron H, your autoshop business must be good, because according to the picture, your snowed under. Glad to see your an entreprenuer.(-:

 
At 3/21/2011 1:30 PM, Blogger misterjosh said...

Old article. I think we're up to 80 now. http://www.climatestations.com/images/stories/minneapolis/msp1011.gif

 
At 3/21/2011 9:59 PM, Blogger Hydra said...

The left-wing is hooey in forecasting such rises purely due to manmade warming and on a schedule, and the right-wing is hooey for saying it can't happen.
===<><<<<<<

I agree. Some scientists have behaved poorly, and the political hacks even more poorly.

That doesn't mean that we are not making additional changes in the climate, including some that it is worth trying to stop.

 
At 3/22/2011 12:29 PM, Blogger Ron H. said...

Buddy

"Ron H, your autoshop business must be good, because according to the picture, your snowed under. Glad to see your an entreprenuer.(-:"

I'm not sure why you think I deserve this, but thanks. :-)

 
At 3/22/2011 12:46 PM, Blogger Ron H. said...

"That doesn't mean that we are not making additional changes in the climate, including some that it is worth trying to stop."

Nor does it mean that we are. Without knowing, it would be foolhardy to take drastic and expensive action "just in case".

You might consider reading Bjorn Lomberg's Cool It.

He believes, as you do, that people are causing significant climate change, but unlike you, he thinks that efforts to help adapt are a more useful way to spend valuable resources than the hopeless task of attempting to reducing the temperature.

 
At 3/22/2011 2:54 PM, Blogger Buddy R Pacifico said...

Ron, the picture for this post shows Ron's Auto Repair snowed under. So, I presumed it likely you were the owner, based upon coincidence.

 
At 3/23/2011 8:33 PM, Blogger Ron H. said...

"Ron, the picture for this post shows Ron's Auto Repair snowed under. So, I presumed it likely you were the owner, based upon coincidence."

Duh...Sorry. Now I get it.:-)

 
At 3/25/2011 4:45 AM, Blogger Greg Lang said...

I live near the picture. Ron's auto repair like most small shops has some "project cars" they keep around to work on when business is slow. I think they have a Bobcat with a long arm. If the link works here is a google street view of Rons. No place to really put snow. http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=rons%20auto%20repair%20minneapolis&cp=28&qe=cm9ucyBhdXRvIHJlcGFpciBtaW5uZWFwb2xpcw&qesig=U06oRuH7HQPWn87EzoEWmA&pkc=AFgZ2tnIZpULpepvvTz-TDKpOrJ4ZyELpuX2RG51nCwpK4krL6mWIJkKAx6S6tmtMDM1xb6AQc053WeKS8n6vlxBedjdzvnVqw&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&um=1&biw=1440&bih=775&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=il

 

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