Friday, October 21, 2011

Gibson Guitar CEO Speaks Out on Gov't. Persecution


6 Comments:

At 10/21/2011 9:17 PM, Blogger VangelV said...

Can Obama be this stupid? It is one thing to go after companies that idiot voters do not like but another to go after an icon like Gibson. What happens when the company moves a plant abroad because it cannot afford to have its lower margin products made in the US? Would Obama be happier if the guitars were made in India?

 
At 10/22/2011 8:27 AM, Blogger Zachriel said...

VangelV: Can Obama be this stupid?

It's very doubtful this was due to any action of the President. You might complain of government overreach without claiming that everything the government does is due to the direct acts of the President.

In any case, we'll just have to wait and see what evidence the government has.

 
At 10/22/2011 9:13 AM, Blogger VangelV said...

It's very doubtful this was due to any action of the President. You might complain of government overreach without claiming that everything the government does is due to the direct acts of the President.

But it is the responsibility of the President. He should have shut down any efforts to use American police action (which is what this is) to investigate compliance to Indian labour laws. The same is true of the EPA overreach. He can't escape blame by arguing that he does not know all of the details of stupid actions undertaken by ideologues in that department.

In any case, we'll just have to wait and see what evidence the government has.

The government has already said that Gibon violated no laws. It is time for a big apology and for a payment that covers the damages done to the company. The cash can come out of the budget of the agencies that made the error. I am sure that a lot can be saved by firing the incompetent employees who recommended and authorized the action.

 
At 10/22/2011 5:46 PM, Blogger Zachriel said...

VangelV: But it is the responsibility of the President.

Actually, the President can't interfere with ongoing investigations.

VangelV: The government has already said that Gibon violated no laws.

Do you have a citation for that?

 
At 10/23/2011 10:36 AM, Blogger VangelV said...

VangelV: But it is the responsibility of the President.

Actually, the President can't interfere with ongoing investigations.


Actually, the President can make sure that the agencies follow the law and that they do not go after innocent companies.

VangelV: The government has already said that Gibon violated no laws.

Do you have a citation for that?


The government admitted that it has carried out a raid two and a half years ago without charging the company with any wrongdoing.

 
At 10/23/2011 2:14 PM, Blogger Zachriel said...

VangelV: Actually, the President can make sure that the agencies follow the law and that they do not go after innocent companies.

Culpability is determined by process, that is, by investigators taking evidence before an independent magistrate and court. Political interference in the process violates due process.

VangelV: The government admitted that it has carried out a raid two and a half years ago without charging the company with any wrongdoing.

We didn't ask you to repeat your claim, but to substantiate it. Just curious as we're not too familiar with the details of the case.

 

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