Wednesday, July 14, 2010

Do They Have This in Canada or UK?

Cyrus Massoumi, CEO & Founder of ZocDoc:

"After I ruptured my eardrum on a flight, I couldn't find a doctor for 3 days. I knew that there had to be an easier way for patients to find doctors. That was when I had the idea for ZocDoc."

From TechCrunch:

"ZocDoc automates a task that can be incredibly frustrating and time-consuming for consumers. ZocDoc allows users to book their doctor appointments online, even for same-day appointments (around 40% of ZocDoc users schedule same-day appointments). Patients can see real-time availability of doctors in their area, confirm who accepts their insurance plan and read feedback and reviews of doctors from other patients.

The service currently offers patients more than 1 million available appointments across 20 specialties. The company has launched regional sites in New York, Washington DC, Chicago, and most recently San Francisco."


At 7/14/2010 6:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take it a valuable step further: add office-visit rate information.

At 7/14/2010 8:51 PM, Blogger canuck said...

I live in BC, Canada. I do not see a real demand for Zocdoc here. We have privately run walk-in medical clinics in shopping malls that allow us to see a doctor without an appointment almost 24/7. The cost is zero and there is no paperwork as we are all covered by public health insurance, if we want it, and I have never met a Canadian who doesn't.

At 7/14/2010 9:26 PM, Blogger Bill said...

canuck: "The cost is zero"

Zero cost? Really? Do aliens pay for it?

At 7/14/2010 9:42 PM, Blogger PeakTrader said...

The point of capitalism is generating more wealth with less effort. Profit is the reward for efficiencies.

Socialism generates more effort for less wealth. Trade-offs make up for the inefficiencies.

At 7/14/2010 10:43 PM, Anonymous Peterk said...

"The cost is zero and there is no paperwork as we are all covered by public health insurance,"

zero cost, no paperwork? really? is this Bizarro Canada? there is a cost, and there is paperwork you just don't see it. but costs exists just add up all the taxes you pay in Canada for this "free paperless" service.

now could you explain to me why so many of your countrymen come to the US for healthcare?

At 7/14/2010 10:55 PM, Anonymous Lyle said...

Perhaps better put the direct cost is zero for the checkup. Indirect costs are another matter, but everyone pays them. There is no money out of pocket when treated is the point.

At 7/15/2010 12:06 AM, Anonymous Canadian said...

canuck's got it all wrong.....

the cost ain't zero, a pack of smokes costs 9 to 10 bucks in this country...and a bottle of scotch is forty bucks.

That pretty well is the cost of universal healthcare....AND of course the fact that you have to wait while somebody WAY sicker than you gets treated matter how much money/coverage you might have . Have a problem with that one???Like your hangnail is a REAL emergency???? Then you are the canadian that goes to the states....and gets all the media attention....LOL

NOBODY goes bankrupt because of an illness in this country.

At 7/15/2010 1:18 AM, Blogger PeakTrader said...

Canadian says: "NOBODY goes bankrupt because of an illness in this country."

They just don't get the medical care and if they do, everyone gets less of everything else.

So, socialist countries need to invent arbitrary indices, like the HDI, to feel better about the poor state of their countries.

At 7/15/2010 3:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

C'mon Americans!
The grim truth is that you spend around 14% of your GDP on healthcare, the "socialist world" around 7%. You don't live longer (or better with regard to health). American docs and insurance companies, drug companies etc do very well from you all. I love America, I am a right wing capitalist. If I can spend half the money and get the same outcome isn't that called market forces?

At 7/15/2010 4:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Canucks's point was that he didn't need to "have this ['zocdoc,' or whatever you call it] in Candada." Because all he had to do do was go to a shopping mall, enter a privately run clinic, show his card, and get treatment. Without any direct cost TO HIM, and without HIM having to fill out any paperwork.

NOT that the health care is really "free" in that no one pays for it. They pay for it through their taxes, they know that already. And not there isn't any paperwork anywhere, because there must be (although probably less than in the USA, since much of the paperwork here is generated for purposes of determining insurance eligibility).

So, getting past the knee jerk and trite and obvious objections ("Do aliens pay for it?" har, har), the real issue here is does the headline make any sense. "Do they have this Canda?" No, because they don't need it. If your ear hurts, you just go to the clinic, see a doctor, and get it taken care of. No need to take three days looking for a doctor, no need to go online and have "zocdoc" find you one.

Does that necessarily mean the Canadian system is better over all? No. But it does pretty much refute the obvious import of the headline in relation to this particular issue.

At 7/15/2010 4:41 AM, Anonymous Robert Jack said...

Zero cost i know

At 7/15/2010 8:20 AM, Blogger Free2Choose said...

Canucks have free health care the same way we in the U.S. have "free" military defense, "free" road construction and maintenance, free public education (which just got "free-er" since the Teacher's Unions used their political leverage to oppose Charter School funding and increase the "freeness" of public education), and free fire and police protection. Yep, we got lots of free stuff in this country. If things get anymore "free" here, we're going to be F---ing bankrupt.

At 7/15/2010 8:50 AM, Blogger PeakTrader said...

Anon, the grim truth is foreigners are "free riders" of the U.S. health care industry. They benefit from the new drugs, medical equipment, treatments, etc. of the $2.2 trillion U.S. health care industry.

When controlling for accidents, Americans live longer than anyone else. Also, the U.S. black population lowers U.S. life expectancy.

If you're a "right wing capitalist" why do you defend a socialist system? Health care would be much cheaper if it wasn't heavily regulated by government.

You're getting cheap health care, while everything else is more expensive. Health care needs more competition, not more regulation.

At 7/15/2010 2:45 PM, Blogger juandos said...

"The grim truth is that you spend around 14% of your GDP on healthcare, the "socialist world" around 7%. You don't live longer (or better with regard to health)"...

One can ALWAYS on a liberal-socialist to ignore the facts...

American health care to expensive?

Thank an intrusive federal government...

Troll around this federal site and you see political spin instead of real statistics...

At 7/16/2010 3:44 PM, Anonymous Canadian said...

Well got some of that right....Accidents? The US has the highest vehicle accident rate in the whole wide world (at 15.5 per 100,000)....U-S-A,

Anyway Peak, that acounts for only 4.4% of total how could it skew numbers THAT much. And hey, Belgium is close behind at 15.4...France 13.7. Italy 12.9........Nice try though.

It don't matter if you're a socialist or not the FACTS are that the US spends TWICE per capita on healthcare as compared to Canada (real dollars, like 3600 to 7200 IIRC)

About half of healthcare expenditures in the US is the government (VA, medicare, medicaid) so you are running two competing, side by side systems. That can't EFFICIENT.

Canada ain't no healthcare nirvana, far from it... but we can't afford your system. End of story.

So given the choice between no gov. involmnent at all (let allmighty free enterprise, "markets in everything", take care of us) or getting all of us together in one BIG insurance pool administered by the government.....we chose the latter. BTW we don't have socialized medicine in Canada, that's the UK, we have socialized insurance....there IS a difference.

good luck to both of us.

At 8/14/2011 6:50 PM, Blogger rdmcfee said...

Actually, there's a company based out of Vancouver working on a similar solution for Dentists etc. called Clinicbook (

Unfortunately with the massive doctor shortage in Canada it's difficult to do this for primary care physicians but Clinicbook will be available for Dentists, Optometrists, Physiotherapists, Chiropractors and more.


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