Sunday, December 06, 2009

Climate Change Propagandistic Lockstep, Delusions of Intellectual Adequacy, and Messiah Complexes

Never in peacetime history has the government-media-academic complex been in such sustained propagandistic lockstep about any subject [climate change].

A CRU e-mail says: "The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment" -- this "moment" is in its second decade -- "and it is a travesty that we can't."

The travesty is the intellectual arrogance of the authors of climate-change models partially based on the problematic practice of reconstructing long-term prior climate changes. On such models we are supposed to wager trillions of dollars -- and substantially diminished freedom.

Some climate scientists compound their delusions of intellectual adequacy with messiah complexes. They seem to suppose themselves a small clerisy entrusted with the most urgent truth ever discovered. On it, and hence on them, the planet's fate depends. So some of them consider it virtuous to embroider facts, exaggerate certitudes, suppress inconvenient data, and manipulate the peer-review process to suppress scholarly dissent and, above all, to declare that the debate is over.

Consider the sociology of science, the push and pull of interests, incentives, appetites and passions. Governments' attempts to manipulate Earth's temperature now comprise one of the world's largest industries. Tens of billions of dollars are being dispensed, as by the U.S. Energy Department, which has suddenly become, in effect, a huge venture capital operation, speculating in green technologies. Political, commercial, academic and journalistic prestige and advancement can be contingent on not disrupting the (postulated) consensus that is propelling the gigantic and fabulously lucrative industry of combating global warming.

~George Will in today's Washington Post

23 Comments:

At 12/06/2009 1:50 PM, Anonymous surhmesa said...

Liberalism is a neurological disorder, causing confused thinking, which my lead to acts of stupidity.

 
At 12/06/2009 3:07 PM, Blogger QT said...

surhmesa,

Impuning the intelligence, or character of your opponent when you cannot refute his arguments is one of the stupider forms of argumentation. It's a logical fallacy known as ad hominem.

I surmise that you don't like George Wills, his ideological bent or his latest column suggesting that he has a brain disorder is pathetic...now tell us what is wrong with his argument. Control your emotions and dazzle us with the brilliance of your reasoning and the erudition of your discourse.

Your first post expresses anger and little else. Anger makes fools of us all.

Please try again. I'm sure you're capable of much more.

 
At 12/06/2009 4:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

WASHINGTON--The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency will early next week, possibly as soon as Monday, officially declare carbon dioxide a public danger, a trigger that could mean regulation for emitters across the economy, according to several people close to the matter.

Such an "endangerment" decision is necessary for the EPA to move ahead early next year with new emission standards for cars. EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson has said it could also mean large emitters such as power stations, cement kilns, crude-oil refineries and chemical plants would have to curb their greenhouse gas output.

WSJ

Hang on to your wallet, you're about to get another dose of "hope and change".

 
At 12/06/2009 5:28 PM, Blogger QT said...

Yep, you said it, Anon.

Funny, how a gas we exhale that is non-toxic and one of the simplest molecules on the planet is somehow supposed to be eliminated...perhaps, we should all start meditating to lower our personal carbon footprint.

 
At 12/06/2009 6:33 PM, Blogger Shawn said...

equating the climate-change-modification-folk with a Messiah is insulting--to the Messiah.

 
At 12/06/2009 6:57 PM, Blogger juandos said...

Hmmm, I don't think surhmesa was attacking George Will UNLESS George Will all of sudden developed a 'liberal tick' in his commentaries...

What are the odds that Obama will take Sarah Palin's advice?

 
At 12/06/2009 7:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The simple reality of politics in general is that you cant often have freedom and equality together. Sometimes governments restrict us for the benefit of ourselves. In terms of safety for example we are restricted in our cars to a certain speed limit so that we dont kill ourselves or someone else.

But on to what I really want to talk about. The idea, that we are restricted in terms of climate change.

We may be restricted in terms of the type of cars we can buy, and heaven forbid we may even be encouraged to walk or ride a bike instead.

Even if climate change is a hoax (which I dont accept), surely these restrictions as it is put will actually do things to reduce general pollution and make us happier and healthier. Dont people consider that their freedom being ever so slightly impinged upon is fair when, not doing so impinges on someone elses right to clean air to breathe?

 
At 12/06/2009 8:33 PM, Blogger juandos said...

"Even if climate change is a hoax (which I dont accept), surely these restrictions as it is put will actually do things to reduce general pollution and make us happier and healthier"...

What absolute drivel!

Do some homework...

 
At 12/06/2009 9:27 PM, Blogger randian said...

Let's understand what a CO2 standard is: a fuel economy standard. It's a back-door way for EPA to regulate fuel economy and for the left to regulate out of existence the cars they hate. Remember that one can buy a "gas guzzler" so long as you pay a fine, but no car is permitted to exceed the EPA's emissions limits. The left gets the 40MPG standard they always wanted but couldn't get through political channels (Congress). That's why they've targeted the regulatory agencies for takeover as much as they've targeted the judiciary.

not doing so impinges on someone elses right to clean air to breathe?

CO2 is not a pollutant. Pollutants are poisons, CO2 is not. Increased CO2 will cause plants to grow with wild abandon, which I thought environmentalists were for.

By the way, if nature is so damned important, how can any urban liberal (which is most of them) be so accomodating of the concrete jungles they live in? If environmental rhetoric is to be followed to its logical conclusion New York and San Francisco should be destroyed as an affront to Gaia. Instead they push mandatory densification laws so we can all join them in their brick and steel sardine heaven.

 
At 12/06/2009 11:16 PM, Blogger Cabodog said...

$10 says Al Gore heads to Copenhagen in a Gulfstream rather than flying coach.

 
At 12/07/2009 3:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's a matter with the liberal fools, I breath the exhaust from my car's tail pipe it's completely harmless.

I will find a graph which shows the benefit of breathing from your car's tail pipe, it will also prove air pollutiona and global warming are all a hoax.

We can burn anything any everything without harming humans or the environment.

 
At 12/07/2009 3:29 AM, Blogger Chuck said...

Never in peacetime history has the government-media-academic complex been in such sustained propagandistic lockstep about any subject.
That says it all. It really works in the FACT FREE ZONE or the REDUCED FACT ZONE.

 
At 12/07/2009 6:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ridiculing the Messiahs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk

 
At 12/07/2009 7:16 AM, Anonymous geoih said...

Quote from Anonymous: "... you cant often have freedom and equality together."

All of your examples for restricting freedom are spurious. You continuously use the pronouns "we" and "us" and "government" as if they are actual entities, when they're just euphemisms to hide that fact that you wish to force your political views on other people.

It's quite obvious from this thread that "we" do not agree on the topic of global warming, yet YOU continue to insist that "we" should do certain things that YOU think are best. This is not freedom or equality, but tyranny.

 
At 12/07/2009 9:01 AM, Blogger W.E. Heasley said...

ClimateGate: the Global Warming Scheme.

When a Scheme unravels an attempt is always made to marginalize or misrepresent the evidence. The leaked e-mails and lost temperature data is somehow unimportant, only marginal information, are leaked information hence not in play, etc., etc..

Marginalization and misrepresentation are components of the Cover-Up-Phase of an unraveling Scheme.

The Cover-Up-Phase generally escalates. The escalation of the Cover-Up-Phase can be clearly seen in Watergate. The escalation of the Cover-Up-Phase creates an unsustainable bubble of marginalization and misrepresentations.

Bubbles always bust as Schemes always unravel.

Welcome to Copenhagen. The slogan for the Copenhagen Conference should be a quote from Hunter S. Thompson: “When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro“!

 
At 12/07/2009 10:11 AM, Anonymous John said...

Evolution might be a close second to Global Warming. In both cases, thousands of scientists deny it, and in both cases those who affirm it try very hard to suppress dissent.

 
At 12/07/2009 11:56 AM, Blogger QT said...

Anon. 7:17,

"Even if climate change is a hoax (which I dont accept), surely these restrictions as it is put will actually do things to reduce general pollution and make us happier and healthier."

I can see that you might have a case if you were talking about the regulation of other pollutant gases...but in this case, the regulations are only concerned with the restriction of CO2 which is a non-toxic gas that every animal on the planet exhales and is stored in living tissues and released when a life form decays.

CO2 is very difficult to eliminate because it's so simple.

 
At 12/07/2009 4:06 PM, Blogger VangelV said...

Evolution might be a close second to Global Warming.

Let us try and be rational please and stick to the topic. The bottom line is that after $50 billion of spending on research we still can't point to a single bit of credible evidence that links temperature change to CO2. The AGW argument is mostly based on faith and ideology, which is the reason why the so-called scientists who were coming up with those indefensible reconstructions kept their data and methods secret.

 
At 12/07/2009 6:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the Americans had not elected Obama, the world would have never descended to this point.

That is why I blame the Americans for foisting this hoax upon us all.

 
At 12/07/2009 8:11 PM, Blogger juandos said...

"If the Americans had not elected Obama, the world would have never descended to this point.

That is why I blame the Americans for foisting this hoax upon us all
"...

You'll get NO argument from this American...

 
At 12/07/2009 11:27 PM, Blogger VangelV said...

If the Americans had not elected Obama, the world would have never descended to this point.

That is why I blame the Americans for foisting this hoax upon us all.


While Obama may turn out to be one of the worst presidents of the past half century Bush was not all that much better and may have actually been worse. American voters had a chance to elect a good man but failed when they did not support Ron Paul. As such, they deserve what they get.

 
At 12/12/2009 9:14 PM, Anonymous サクラ Shill said...

Here is a follow up on your U-haul fees.
For 17" truck but no trailer
Juneau to Dallas $2064
dallas to Juneau $2105

Does this indicate popular acceptance of the warming theory? Planning for the hit are climate fugitives now moving North to avoid the rush and get better price on homes?

Stay tuned

 
At 12/12/2009 11:25 PM, Blogger VangelV said...

Does this indicate popular acceptance of the warming theory? Planning for the hit are climate fugitives now moving North to avoid the rush and get better price on homes?

First, you show that it costs more to go from Dallas to Juneau than Juneau to Dallas. That implies that more people are moving from Dallas to Juneau than the other way around. Second, the difference is too small to be meaningful. Third, it is more likely for people who prefer good weather to move south than north. I don't see many older people moving from Arizona or Florida to New York but a lot that make the reverse move.

 

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